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The death stats are what they are, and that is not being blinded by

Anything. There have been billions of doses of vaccine administered. Billions across all demographics have received 2 doses. What growing vaccine related risks in any demographic round to anything other than 0? There are many demographics that experience significant risks of death and serious illness from the virus itself.

There have been tiny numbers of cases of heart inflammation from vaccines. I’m unaware of any deaths associated with it, or even long lasting symptoms, out of billions of doses administered. Whereas long-Covid is a real thing. So somebody in this conversation is emotionally distorting risk factors into a nuance-free, conspiracy theory driven irrational view of risk-rewards of getting vaxxed, but it ain’t me. The pervasiveness of these irrational conspiracy theories is impacting vaccine uptake, that’s for sure.

We can thank those pushing these irrational pro-Covid agendas, in part by distorting the likelihood of dangers of the vaccines, for that.

(In response to this post by jpmHoo)

Posted: 12/05/2021 at 10:34AM

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